CO-PA and Purchase Price Variance

[capall]

Should the PPV being generated from MIRO post directly to CO-PA or do you have to assess it from the cost eslemt
Thanks

[Guest]

Should the PPV being generated from MIRO post directly to CO-PA or do you have to assess it from the cost eslemt
Thanks

Hi - we post the PPV to a 'shared' cost centre which essentially stores all the variance accounts between gross margin at standard and gross margin at actual in the p&l

The shared cost centre is then assessed to COPA at the month end

I guess if you could identify the customer / sold to party at the point of origin then you could post the PPV straight to a profitability segment

If you can't identify the customer / sold to party at the point of origin then it's best to post to a cost centre and assess later on

Charles

[capall]

Hi Charles
I was thinking of the posting going through as unassigned for the customer characteristics from the MIRO posting .Then you would have a good report in co-pa of this variance per material.

If you take it to controlling and back to co-pa you lose the correct amount per material.
Similarly it would be good to take stock revaluation gains losses directly to pa for reporting purposes only.

I thought by including the price variance accounts in the PA transfer structure that this would allow it to post direct from MIRO.
No luck yet

[Guest]

Hi Charles
I was thinking of the posting going through as unassigned for the customer characteristics from the MIRO posting .Then you would have a good report in co-pa of this variance per material.

If you take it to controlling and back to co-pa you lose the correct amount per material.
Similarly it would be good to take stock revaluation gains losses directly to pa for reporting purposes only.

I thought by including the price variance accounts in the PA transfer structure that this would allow it to post direct from MIRO.
No luck yet

Hi Capall

I think you have to use the settings in OKB9 to achieve this - I haven't used it myself - I should really have a proper go at it to work out how it functions

I guess you could do it this way and have no customer assignment - problem is though that COPA is really about the profitability of sold materials whereas you will be passing PPV on purchased materials to COPA without the relationship to the sold materials

I have been giving this issue some thought recently and I think the problem needs to be approached in stages for example

( 1 ) Record PPV per purchased material against a shared cost centre
( 2 ) Find where the material is used in bills of material for sold materials
( 3 ) Get sales volumes for sold materials per customer
( 4 ) Apportion PPV per sold material / customer with a Z program
( 5 ) Post to COPA

This is rather a big problem though and it makes some implicit assumptions about stock changes but it's a lot better than the spreadsheets the users have at the moment

I would also have to extend it to subcontract and consignment PPV

Charles

[CAPALL]

Hi Charles
Thanks ,this works ,I have got the PO generating a PA document for the variance.

I think it is worth having this in PA because when you look at the numbers
at the level above customer ie sales org or company code it gives you a better view of your margin and also because you have a good report on PPV per material

[Guest]

Hi Charles
Thanks ,this works ,I have got the PO generating a PA document for the variance.

I think it is worth having this in PA because when you look at the numbers
at the level above customer ie sales org or company code it gives you a better view of your margin and also because you have a good report on PPV per material

Hi Capall

I hadn't actually though about passing the PPV directly to COPA and then using the COPA data for a PPV report

That's a really good idea so I'll have a closer look at it - I have been using Z ABAP's for this for years and it would be a good idea to move away from the Z ABAP's to standard functionality

Thanks

Charles

[MA]

Hi,
Are you then able to do a cost analysis per cost center also?
I would like to analyse the cost as a cost control measure by cost center. To pass the value on to COPA for margin analysis ..we do it by mapping FI postings to value fields.

MA

[Temi99]

Hi Capall,

We would like to analyse and control PPV variances. Base on above discussion trail, I can summaise the following:
1) PPV uses PRD transaction/event key to post to one GL account.
2) Using OKB9 we can post PPVs to a central Cost Center

Can you please detail steps to post PPVs, including PPV revaluation posting into CO-PA?
Also please mention reports/transactions you use to analyse, Effectively Control, and Monitor the Purchase Price Variances.

Best regards,
Temi