Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

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Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by kgc107 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:57 pm

Let me give you some background information first:

Location: North Carolina, USA
Graduated May 2011: Bachelors in Business Administration and Finance
Work Experience: Two years Accounting and Finance Analyst type of position.

So as you can see, I am the freshest as freshers come around. I've attended an SAP Functional Analyst training intro session. I really want to follow a career path in SAP FI/CO, so I want to take this training and get certified to get my foot in the door.

My questions include. Am I too young? Is it a good idea for me to follow this route? Also, would I not get many job opportunities since I don't have a Masters Degree? Please advise me if I should go down this route. Throughout training I am willing to put 150% effort and achieve certification and start my career!

Also there is BI/BW training that trainees are suggesting that I take. Both training providers say it doesn't matter that I am very fresh, I can still get job after certification! However I want to get opinion of people that aren't looking to get money for me for training!

Please let me know if I should take FI/CO training or BI/BW training. Would it even better if I do both and get certification in both this early? Would that give me more positives on my side?

Thank you and please help me out. I would love to go in a career path of FI/CO analyst! I have been in love with everything that was told in the intro session and every research I have done after!

If anybody knows any good FI/CO training near Ashburn, VA or Raleigh, NC please let me know. Thank you!

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by blueteeth » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:07 pm

Maybe I am an old rusted canon.

I never knew one has to get certified to get into SAP consulting world.

For me, a typical new student of SAP FI/CO is a Chartered Accountant / CPA / Cost Accountant who has spent about 10 years in functional domain of Accounting/Finance in a large organization working on some systems provided by MIS/EDP. In addition to his professional responsibilities, this finance/accounting guy would be well versed in tantrums of CFO (& his wife).

Please note, I've not mentioned MBA.

Otherwise, he/she will be (IMHO) a "configurator of SPRO".

And no, I have nothing to do with SAP FI/CO.

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by kgc107 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:14 pm

Haha thank you for the reply.

So, do you think it is not a good idea for me to go into FI/CO because I have no experience. I know FI/co is one of the hardest modules and more experienced do it.


So is that not a good route for me and should I rather go the bi/bw route first?

Thank you!

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by blueteeth » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:30 pm

My intention is not to discourage you. Just shared my personal opinion. Am sure FI/CO specialists would throw more light on this.

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Rich » Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:59 pm

Old Rusted Cannon wrote:I never knew one has to get certified to get into SAP consulting world.
You don't but you can. I am for what it's worth.

Have a look at Accenture/IBM/Cap Gemini and see if they are recruiting.
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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by ilya » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:53 am

I've seen one guy studying on his own first (SAP training materials probably), then taking private certification prep course (cheaper than paying to SAP), then getting certified, then working for food for few months as an instructor at some non-SAP-endorsed SAP training shop, and then finally getting a real SAP position.

Takes time...
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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Craig » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:33 am

From your posting you said you graduated May 2011 but you have two years job experience. Were you in an internship or something? If you were in school fulltime until May 2011, I don't see how you can have two years experience yet.

I'm not an FI/CO guy at all. No experience at all there. But I don't think the module matters all that much. It depends on what you want to do in SAP. If you just want to be technical guy, doing configuration, loading data, maybe training, then you should just try to go to an IBM, Accenture, etc.. and just get your foot in the door ASAP with them.

If your goal is to be an independent consultant someday, then I think you need to get some significant field experience in addition to getting the SAP knowledge. Get a job at a company that is already using SAP. Learn it as a user. Volunteer for everything and anything that involves SAP. Agree to do any dirty job with cleanup or data review. Make sure you have one or two SAP goals or objectives every year in your personal development plan that most major companies require of their employees. Volunteer to be your companies ASUG rep. Get onto the next SAP upgrade team somehow. If your company buys/sells businesses they might have frequent mini-projects to bring on new plants/businesses into their SAP systems, or divest them out. Try to get involved in any of these that you can as a super user, trainer, etc.... After 6-8 years you might want to change companies. Get more exposure. See how another company has implemented it.

At the 10-12 yr mark you might be able to get on with a consulting house as a functional consultant. Go with a big company for a few years, (IBM, Accenture, Infosys, Cap Gemmni, KPMG, Deliotte) At the 15-18 yr makr maybe think about a small consulting house where you can be the sole go-to guy or strike out on your own. By the time your 40 you could be totally independent and if you have saved carefully, and watch your money carefully, you could retire if you want to by 50.

All IMHO,

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Rich » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:44 am

Craig wrote:you could retire if you want to by 50.
Not if you enjoy your work as much as I do..... 8)

As for your comment about Accenture/Infosys etc etc. I would think they would be easier to get into as a trainee rather than hunting around for a company that has or is implementing SAP.

Whilst I admit some of the training given by these companies can be a bit suspect, it depends I think on your attitude to work and whether you want to do the job for the jobs sake or the money.

For example in Finland I worked with some really good consultants who were just finishing their training and I was really impressed by them. On the other hand working with people from the same company in an unnamed country, I felt that a lot of them should have been sacked.

The difference ? The Finn's appeared to love their work and get satisfaction out of it. The other lot were in it just for the money, however, where they enjoyed their work, the level of competancy and quality was much higher.
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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by kgc107 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:19 pm

There is no question, I am doing it because the Functional as well as the Fi/co module interests me very much.

And Craig, Yes It was an internship that I continued to work around 30 hours a week while in school and fulltime for another 7 months after I graduated.

Thanks I guys, I have a lot to think about. I really don't care about becoming the go-to guy or independent. I just want to have a future career in SAP FI/CO as a functional analyst/consultant. I have tried some of those companies you guys have suggested, but with no luck.

But if I want to pursue FI/CO, you guys are saying pursue it no matter what. Don't follow the BI/BW then try to jump into FI/CO? If I want to do FI/CO start with FI/CO? Thanks

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Craig » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:57 am

Rich wrote: Not if you enjoy your work as much as I do..... 8)

The operative word in my comment was COULD. I'll never retire probably. Of course that is also partly due to some bad real estate invesments in the last ten years. :evil:

But back to the original poster. I wouldn't say BI/BW is not important to your area. I think it is a very good value added module for an FI/CO person. CEO's and CFO's don't get down into the weeds usually. They use BI/BW to see trends and supposedly the "big" pciture. (don't get me started on that!!!). They make decisions on what is presented to them. Much of that data is going to go through a BI/BW system.

The thing is though, you do best when you do something you love. So if somehow you are head over heels with FI/CO (I'm not sure how that can happen, I guess it takes all kinds in this world!), than do that.

I would also look at overseas companies/projects. Being young and single, (I'm guessing), I encourage you to get what ever exposure you can to other countries. Being on a long-term assignment overseas should help you in many ways. Picking up even the basics of another language can be a great assest in your career.

If you can't find a position, consider doing a Masters. Maybe consider a college that offers an SAP program.
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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Rich » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:17 am

Craig wrote:I encourage you to get what ever exposure you can to other countries
That's one thing I love about this job. I get to do something I really enjoy, and I get to go to loads of different countries which I also enjoy. On top of all that I get paid for it too!! :D

Just don't learn Flemish.....
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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Craig » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:24 am

Just don't learn Flemish.....
Was there ever a country called Flem??? :)

Craig

PS> Was just in Belgian recently. Enjoyed it immensely. Esp. the beer.

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by Rich » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:30 am

Craig wrote: Was there ever a country called Flem??? :)
<ptuhh!!>Flanders</end hawks.....>

I liked the beer as well!
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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by YuriT » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:33 am

Craig wrote:Was there ever a country called Flem??? :)
It's next to Dutchland

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Re: Please advise a young gun wanting to get into SAP

Post by kgc107 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:19 am

One thing is for sure, and this I have time. I am 23 and am willing to take time to get settled (not years and years, but 1.5-2.5)

This is a new plan I am thinking about.

I currently live in the U.S. and since January have been working for an IT recruiting company. They have headquarters in Hyderbad, India. I heard SAP training is very good there. I am going to do research on some institutes. Move there for 6 months and work for my current company while training. Of course my company is in IT recruting so after that they might facilitate in getting me placed in a SAP FI/CO position. I will also practice and give it my highest work ethic to take the SAP certification and achieve it after the training.

Do you guys think this is a feasible plan and should I follow it. I will say that I do have family in India. So if the factor that it is a new country and its not worth it...that is not at all a problem for me.

By the way you guys have been helpful in manyways, especially Craig. Thank you guys!

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