Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

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Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by hamiltonblake » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:01 am

Experts:

I am currently recruiting a SD, MM & WM support role on R/3 4.6c. I have been told by a SAP B1 consultant who has applied for the role that many of the configuration aspects and integrations points are similar.

I am dubious though, are there even integration points in B1?

My knowledge of B1 is that it is a condensed version of SAP, and was a product bought by SAP rather than designed by it.

Can anyone advise the functional/technical overlaps/differences from R3 and B1?

Please note I'm a recruitment consultant, and although I specialise in SAP my knowledge is mostly surface deep.

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Baz » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:14 am

i have no experience of Business One, but you could find out by asking technical/functional/configuration questions...

there are plenty of interview type questions out there!
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by The Prince Of Darkness » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:22 am

Unless it changed from when I was last invloved in it, it is completely different from SAP. The "integration" with R3 is no different than integrating a legacy system. It's probably better now as that was a few years ago now.

I wouldn't think a B1 guy would have a chance in ECC with no ECC experience.
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by hamiltonblake » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:01 am

Mr Darkness,

Thank you for that comment. If anyone concurs with his assessment feel free to chip in.

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Snowy » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:16 am

I'm with PoD.

B1 is completely different from R/3.

saying that both are equivalent is rubbish.

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Craig » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:15 pm

I spoke with a project guy not long ago who managed projects for both B1 and ECC. He said B1 was a very watered down version of ECC with very minimal configuraiton options and was primarily meant to be used by small businesses who are willing to use it pretty much out of the box. He said an ECC guy shouldn't have much problem learning and supporting B1 but felt moving from B1 to ECC would be a pretty risky endeavor.

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by thx4allthefish » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:51 am

Well, Craig - your friend was being a bit optimistic there. B1 cannot even support small businesses like a butchery with 2 or more subsidiaries, if they are facing complicated legal obligations like having to be able to reverse-determine every single ingredient they put into a sausage and keeping the records for 10 years.

I have been the standby for a B1 implementation recently and had a good look at that thingy (since my last look was more than 5 years ago). It's like comparing Microsoft Word (SAP ERP) to a DOS-line editor like edlin (B1).

Can't imagine any B1 implementor would have an easy start configuring ERP (whatever the 'module'). As for similar configuration: excuse me? Please ask that aspirant of yours, how he would implement said butchery in business one ... from sales to production! In return, mike_ac, HaTran and a couple of others (see what I did here, huh? Plural!! Like in: many people) could offer you some suggestions what we would do in ERP.
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by mike_ac » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:24 am

I'd say it's even a larger leap than offshoring development, and we all know how poorly that tends to work out. She/he may be smart enough to make a hack job of it, but the results will be amateurish at best. Maybe you can consider that one as a trainee, if you have an entry level spot available.
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Sharpshooter » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:21 am

Can a first year med student perform brain surgery? Sure, but the results will not be optimal.
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Craig » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:06 pm

thx4allthefish wrote:Well, Craig - your friend was being a bit optimistic there. B1 cannot even support small businesses like a butchery with 2 or more subsidiaries, if they are facing complicated legal obligations like having to be able to reverse-determine every single ingredient they put into a sausage and keeping the records for 10 years.
We never defined what a small business was!!! The one place I knew that used it was a single location Mom/pop retail operation with significant internet sales. No manufacturing or produection as they stricly bought wholesale and sold retail. No significant regulatory requirements. Pretty much take an order, pick the order, ship it out, replace the inventory when it got low. <50 employees.

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by The Prince Of Darkness » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:16 pm

thx4allthefish wrote:every single ingredient they put into a sausage and keeping the records for 10 years.
The problem is globalization. This is a fine example. My sausage has no ingredients pumped in to it, yet there is a prescriptive software demanding I record every usage.

I think my sausage usage (or truth be known, lack of) should remain private. I do, however, have a 4 and 8 year old, so there must have been some sausage action in the last 10 years. I was probably too drunk to remember it.
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by mike_ac » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:06 pm

The Prince Of Darkness wrote:I think my sausage usage (or truth be known, lack of) should remain private. I do, however, have a 4 and 8 year old, so there must have been some sausage action in the last 10 years. I was probably too drunk to remember it.
But the father of your kids probably does remember it.
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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Craig » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:33 am

mike_ac wrote:
The Prince Of Darkness wrote:I think my sausage usage (or truth be known, lack of) should remain private. I do, however, have a 4 and 8 year old, so there must have been some sausage action in the last 10 years. I was probably too drunk to remember it.
But the father of your kids probably does remember it.

There are times a roofie could be a blessing. :P

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by acamilo » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:53 am

Nope, Business One is a monkey in front of the R/3 Dinosaur.

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Re: Can a SAP Business 1 Specialist support R/3?

Post by Count » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:25 pm

acamilo wrote:Nope, Business One is a monkey in front of the R/3 Dinosaur.
:shock: so are we all descendant of business one? :shock:
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