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Recruiting Madness

Post by bill_sd » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:46 pm

So here I am, looking for the "Next best project" as I roll off my current assignment soon.
This is U.S. based job sites, by the way.

I see the exact same job posting by 3 different "recruiting" companies (if you can really call them that).
They are looking for a combination of skillsets that is not that common, and fairly specialized, yet they only offer 'all-inclusive" rates, which for those that may not know, means they pay no expenses. The rates are under $100 USD / hour, which after paying my own expenses could net out somewhere around 55-75 USD hour. I think I could be a doorman at a strip club for that.

They all note the "bad economy" and "that's the going rate now", but my current assignment is a lot better than this. I think the odds are good that if they get a person to take this, they will surely screw the system up royaly.

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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by RosieBrent » Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:48 am

It's happening in the UK as well, I was recently approached regarding a large oil company who wanted a senior ABAP developer with quite complex and specialised skills for £200/day inc. This was to work in the Strand in London (so not a cheap area to find hotels in / travel to) and they wanted a face to face interview (no phone interviews) and were not paying interview expenses. I passed. But once some poor soul accepts this we're all going to burn :shock:
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by Al. » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:04 am

RosieBrent wrote:It's happening in the UK as well, I was recently approached regarding a large oil company who wanted a senior ABAP developer with quite complex and specialised skills for £200/day inc.
Wow, that is really bad!
Was it with the oil co direct via agency or through an implementation partner?

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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by RosieBrent » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:53 am

An agency - I was understandably reticent to participate in their "selection process" LOL
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by muhnkee_2 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:08 am

wow that sounds pretty grim, i am soon returning from the land of sunshine and bikinis, back to London, so was just going to post a question asking about the current state of the market....

but it looks like things are pretty tight.

but whats everyone elses experience, has anyone signed up a new contract in the last few months? how were the rates?

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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by Al. » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:38 am

I can see why you wouldn't want to participate!
Maybe the agency are trying it on, oil & gas is still paying OK rates in general from what I am seeing.

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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by bgamble » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:05 am

It seems to me that the rates are crap everywhere but the industry solutions. I am starting to look for my next project (available September 1 for those of you who want to help) and it seems like you can make a living wage in CRM/ISU but outside of that you might as well just go fishing

5 Months to go and I will be free of that parasite ex wife and I can work for peanuts if I want
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by Willie 3 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:58 am

bgamble wrote: 5 Months to go and I will be free of that parasite ex wife
Time to get a new one....otherwise you monthly cash flow will be disrupted significant.

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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by bgamble » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:07 am

Willie 3 wrote:Time to get a new one....otherwise you monthly cash flow will be disrupted significant.
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I'm looking forwards to hearing how hers is going when the checks stop coming. I plan to take great joy in driving by her trailer park
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by bgamble » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:54 am

From today's inbox;
Another Recruiter wrote: I have an opportunity for a SAP CRM consultant (Functional) to work for a major blue-chip organisation to start soon. The rates are between £400 and £425 a day plus full expenses are covered for this role
If you are flexible on location and you are available please send me your CV as there could be travel involved
A couple of questions;

What do you think of the rate?

Flexible on Location? I assume this means the blueprint would take place in a gay bar
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by bgamble » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:13 am

Last week I was contacted about a project in Croatia. So far so good I would love to work in Croatia. But because they shut the country down for the month of August, they wanted someone to start July one, Work for a month and then take the month of August off.

As a American the concept of not working is a little strange to me
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by thx4allthefish » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:36 am

bgamble wrote:Man I am under worked, overpaid, ...
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by RosieBrent » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:07 am

Well I have got to the stage where I'm sick of SAP jobs so I'm applying for a job in a chemists today. I think the simplicity of doing a good job and providing good service may well prove more stimulating than the eternal BS of the IT industry....
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by thx4allthefish » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:17 am

:shock:

what about pay?

i hope you are not serious about that, the world will lose a grand abapper.
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Re: Recruiting Madness

Post by RosieBrent » Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:22 am

ATM I'm earning nothing so I stand to net gain, I have nothing but housework to do in the day so I stand to net gain, no-one seems to want to employ me atm so the world isn't actually going to mourn my loss I think :( maybe I've just hit a wall (been out of work 3 months now) or maybe I just need a change. But yes, I'm totally serious am handing in my application form today and actually quite jazzed about the prospect - and I can't remember the last time I was jazzed about work.

I'll still hang around here and maybe I'll do the odd bit of remote /one-off work for people for shits and giggles (and extra pocket money) but frankly I'm looking for more of a work/life balance than SAP can provide at the moment and 34 hours a week and being genuinely appreciated sound like a good flaming deal to me.
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