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Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Dr Sidewalk » Fri May 01, 2009 7:22 am

Just wanted to get the pros and cons for working Saudi.

Although mainly I wanted to get an idea of rates one would expect, even in this climate.

Anyone.

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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Count » Sat May 02, 2009 5:13 pm

hey doc-walk,... walk away from saudi deals babe. you wouldnt want to work there not for even big money. thats my 2 pence worth advise.
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Dr Sidewalk » Tue May 05, 2009 8:07 am

Yep, turned the offer down as it was not really fare on the kids, and wife, especially as it was a three month contract, leading to extension.
Plus, the money is not what it used to be. I'm sure even I would get fed-up with making sand castles at the weekend. I know I could have flown the wife and kids to Dubai and then met up with them, but this is just an added expense/effort that I just do not need. I think I'll stick with Europe. At least I can drink a beer when I want and be back for the weekends. :)

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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Count » Tue May 05, 2009 6:05 pm

like the aussies say .... good on you mate :)
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby AtholH » Tue May 05, 2009 11:29 pm

I spent 6 months in Saudi. Its actually not that bad and depends largely on where you stay. Its a good experience for 6-12 months and a good way to make money but not worth it for long periods.

If you stay in Khobar, its less restricted than an area like Jubayl for example and women in Khobar often walk around unveiled.

I spent time in Jubayl where you live in compounds which are pretty self sustained. I.e. gyms, swimming pools, canteens etc.

Money is a bit strange as it depends on where you come from. For example, Indians and Pakstani's workers will often only get paid $200/month whilst europeans, south africans, australians and americans are the highest on the pay chain commanding salaries of US$1000/day upwards. The lower level workers will also only 1 month off every two years, no weekends off etc, whilst westerners work a 5 day or 6 day week depending on your contract arrangements. Racist? Very! They even have a pecking order at the airport if you fly directly into Saudi (as opposed to going in via Bahrain over the bridge) so they'll help saudi's first, then westerners, then indians etc

From a danger perspective, they have had minimal murders from extremists over the last 15 years. The Saudi government does a good job of protecting westerners because they know they can't afford to lose them and the overall chances of dying are lower than most high risk cities in the US for example. The biggest danger you are likely to encounter is driving on their roads. The road safety system is a shambles with drivers overtaking in emergency lanes, driving at speeds in excess of 180km's/h and having to contend with people changing 3 lanes of traffic to do a u-turn at the traffic light without warning...it really is that bad. Saudi has the highest accident rate in the world.

Other than that, good experience, hot, dry but liveable for quick money.
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby rangachary » Wed May 06, 2009 1:58 am

Dr Sidewalk wrote:Just wanted to get the pros and cons for working Saudi.

Although mainly I wanted to get an idea of rates one would expect, even in this climate.

Anyone.

Dr Sidewalk

I would say, for all the perfumes in Arabia, you should not accept an offer to work there, these are strictly my personal views. YMMV.
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Dr Sidewalk » Fri May 08, 2009 9:01 am

Just read the advice and it looks like I made the right decision.

I would not have gone anyway because I could not find my bucket and spade. As my kids will testify, I'm a bit of a sand castle king. ;)

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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Gladiator » Fri May 08, 2009 2:58 pm

AtholH wrote: They even have a pecking order at the airport if you fly directly into Saudi (as opposed to going in via Bahrain over the bridge) so they'll help saudi's first, then westerners, then indians etc


If I have a gun with one bullet and if there are a Westerner, Indian (dots), Pakistani, and a Saudi...I will shoot the Saudi guy first.

Bullocks! Truly racist, that country Saudi! Would not go there even if they offer USD2K per day.
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Dr Sidewalk » Mon May 11, 2009 7:23 am

You know, without looking at anyone's profile I can tell whether a poster is American or not. I'm not exactly sure why there is so much hostility to the Saudi's. You do know that they did not take part in any war?.
They were probably too busy making money from their oil. In fact Kuwait, if memory serves correctly was a victim of Saddam, when he blew up their oil wells, although Kuwait is not strictly part of Saudi Arabia, I think, my geographical knowledge is lousy. :)
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby RosieBrent » Mon May 11, 2009 7:28 am

Whilst the Saudi's did not participate in the recent "oil wars" they do harbour many members of the factions that did, plus they have a terrible reputation for racism against the Indian sub-continent (which is what a lot of posters protest about). Saudi's links to the West have always seemed stronger than other areas of the Middle East with their links to the US (because primarily of their oil exports) are particularly strong. As a UK citizen I can certainly remember when people travelling to the Middle East from Europe refused on their trade union's advice to carry American Express cards as this was used by terrorists to determine whether a person was worth shooting or not (Amex = Westerner = likely to be from rich Western State = more likely to get on international news).

The Saudi's have played the West against the Middle East in the past as well - so I guess they're just reaping what they sow, in the same way as many other countries are.
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby thx4allthefish » Mon May 11, 2009 11:16 am

that all is surely true. but actually, my experience is (was?) very different. i have been working with (in) Saudi Arabia on a project of solar hydrogen energy. this was two decades ago, and it only lasted for 3 years, so no longer valid, of course. i remember a lot of embarrassment (working with a woman will cause such ... but then: where not?) but also a lot of arabian hospitality - and believe me: there's no match for that one. the only subject that grated on me, was the freedom of movement. women were not allowed to drive cars, but that did not matter - i cannot drive one anyway - but not being allowed to go where i wish was a big drawback. i hear from colleagues that this is less so today and that in towns like riyadh or jeddah women do no longer hide and walk as they wish. again: i have no current experience ... and when it comes to racism: you might look in many other directions and/or countries and find a lot of that. more or less hidden.

and now i 'stand' here and wait for S_C to flog me (again).
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby muhnkee_2 » Mon May 11, 2009 5:06 pm

dont worry fish, i am not sure where S_C would stand on this, on one hand they are friends of america, on the other hand they are muslim, so S_C will be as confused as a....
well i cant think of anything witty, so am open to suggestions...
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby mb7269 » Sat May 30, 2009 2:00 am

The biggest danger you are likely to encounter is driving on their roads. The road safety system is a shambles with drivers overtaking in emergency lanes, driving at speeds in excess of 180km's/h and having to contend with people changing 3 lanes of traffic to do a u-turn at the traffic light without warning...it really is that bad. Saudi has the highest accident rate in the world.


Not just that... they also drive in reverse!! on emergency lane. Scared me to death! Was there at Saudi Aramco AlKhobar for 4 months.
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Re: Has anyone worked in Saudi Arabia before?.

Postby Gladiator » Sun May 31, 2009 7:01 am

Read this article on cnn and you would know where Saudi belongs ( stone age??? )

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/ ... index.html
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